jak
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Post by jak on Feb 23, 2005 3:59:47 GMT -5
Hi, I just found this forum and love it. My question is, do I need an output expander to route my drum, snare and hi-hat to individual tracks in Pro tools?
Thanks
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Post by kwiet on Feb 24, 2005 3:58:38 GMT -5
yep
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Post by showpony4 on Mar 8, 2005 18:58:04 GMT -5
....unless you do them one at a time and record each as a protools audio track that is!
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jak
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Post by jak on Mar 10, 2005 4:45:10 GMT -5
So if I record a single sequence of snare, kick and hi hat, how do I record them to separate tracks in pro tools?? Does the timing stay tight as well?
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maine
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Post by maine on Mar 10, 2005 13:12:41 GMT -5
you have to do what is called passes.... make protools master and asr slave... record a 2 bars blank into asr10 to give it time to link up....when u hit record on protools asr10 will follow and you record a ex. snare and hi hat...then when you go to record drum kick you set input into protools up to.... for ex. lets say track 3 then when you hit record you will hear the snare and hihat playing on track 1,2 and you are recording drum kick on track 3... the asr will follow in sync and it will be fine just make sure you record at least two blank bars into asr10 to give protools and asr time to link up ..i use to do this all the time.. holla if u need help.......one
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Post by showpony4 on Mar 10, 2005 17:35:26 GMT -5
The other option is to do all of your sequencing in protools - either seperate tracks or create it in one track and then cut and paste the three elements into their own tracks.
Once you have three seperate miditracks, solo the miditrack of the snare, and record the audio out of the ASR into a new Protools audio track
then solo the drum miditrack, and record the audio out of the ASR into a new protools audio track.
ditto hats...
and now you have your three drum elements in protools as seperate audio tracks!
NB if your plan is to seperate them to add effects to each one seperately, I'd suggest adding the effects during this process rather than assigning plugins to each track as you playback (ie 'printing' effects) unless you have plenty of processor power and RAM to spare!
remember to now mute or delete the original midi tracks or else you will have two versions going on playback!
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jak
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Post by jak on Mar 12, 2005 19:45:29 GMT -5
Maine, how do I record just the snare, or kick, or hi hat? Do I have to mute two and have one going?
And showpony4 doing it your way, the ASR would send midi info to PT when you record it into PT, and then when you mute parts to single out the snare, or whatever, then PT would be sending midi info back to the ASR, right? Wouldnt all this midi info going back and forth lose its 'tightness'?? Or does the two intro bars keep it alright?
Also, sorry, how do I put in the two intro bars?
Thanks, appreciate it.
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Post by showpony4 on Mar 13, 2005 19:02:57 GMT -5
If you are using the method I suggested here, then you wouldn't be using the sequencer in the ASR at all. The solo'd track in protools would send midi data to the ASR telling it to play the Kick, snare, hats or whatever, and you sample the resulting audio into an audio track. In this method you don't need the two intro bars. You won't lose any 'tightness' as the midi tracks never move in relation to each other, and neither do the resulting audio tracks. hope this helps...I think I may have made it all more confusing
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maine
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Post by maine on Mar 13, 2005 23:36:22 GMT -5
when you are recording into protools you have to activate the tracks you want to record for example if you want to record on track one turn it on... you dont want to record on track 3 then disable it and so on and so on.....
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jak
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Post by jak on Mar 14, 2005 1:00:53 GMT -5
Showpony4, I understand that part, but isnt there some timing lost because of latency?
Maine, I enable the tracks to be recorded, I get that, but dont I have to mute out parts on the ASR? Otherwise Ill recording the kick, snare and hi hat all at once.
Sorry Im not getting it straight away.
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maine
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Post by maine on Mar 14, 2005 17:52:17 GMT -5
yo dude if you want to call me ill give you my number its easy to talk someone through it... email me if yoou need further helpppp
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Post by showpony4 on Mar 14, 2005 18:46:37 GMT -5
Jak
soloing the seperate miditrack with the kick on it, means that no midi data will be sent to the snare or hat tracks and vice versa.
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jak
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Post by jak on Sept 1, 2005 6:08:05 GMT -5
Ok, maine, I understand how to do things on the Pro Tools side, but my drums are on the one sequence on the ASR. How do I mute each individual sample, and have just the kick going out? Or should I be sequencing the invidual parts to different tracks on the ASR?
If you dont me calling, itd probably be better for both of us!
Thanks
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